Guru Maharaj: So we see that while taking the first initiation, it is described as taking a new birth. So naturally when you are taking a birth, when you are a baby, toddler, you may fall down a few times and gradually learn to walk. So at the first initiation, it is expected that there may be a few mistakes. And one should pick up and continue to practice. In this way, they can progress. When one takes the second initiation, they are considered to be like 9 or 12 years old. If at that time they are sitting on the lap of their mother, and passing stool or something, then something is wrong! Little baby, it is expected but not expected from a 9 or 12 year boy!